Hi. I’m looking for recommendations on how to manage access to scheduled Zoom events. FYI: I have very limited experience with Zoom and have never scheduled meetings myself so I may very well be overlooking some obvious solutions.
My client has a fitness site where customers can buy tickets to weekly Zoom classes. The Tickets addon is being used for a repeating event which makes it way easier for my client to populate their calendar with events and manage a single product in WooCommerce.
However, this method in EventON means the same Zoom meeting URL and password must used week after week. Zoom’s Scheduled Meetings option does now allow each repeating event to use a separate password either.
Classes can be purchased with or without registering an account on the site. The Zoom class details are emailed to all buyers but are also included in the orders list for any customer with an account on the site.
There’s nothing stopping someone from saving those details and accessing the class without continuing to pay or passing along the info to someone else. My only solution so far was to recommend enabling Waiting Room in Zoom.
Does anyone have a solution for ensuring only those who have paid for a ticket can access a Zoom meeting? At the moment, this is all I can come up with:
1. Do not include a password in the Virtual Event. Instead, include a note that says something like “The password for each week’s class will be updated on your account page every Friday.”
2. No purchasing as a guest. Require every customer to have an account to view the weekly password.
3. Change the password weekly in Zoom prior to each class and have my client update a widget or custom field on the Account page each week with the new password.
This still won’t stop a customer from sharing it for a particular event but it does block access to future passwords. Combined with Waiting Room in Zoom, it may mitigate the problem but this is very clunky solution.
Thanks in advance for any advice!
Feb 1,2021 AT 11:35AM - 4 years ago -Hello,
Please try going to EventON Settings > Tickets > enable Show ticket purchase only for loggedin users. Now go to Edit Event > This is a virtual (online) event > select When to show the above virtual event information on event card: After user has purchased a ticket. So now only logged-in users can purchase tickets and also users cannot see Zoom links unless they are logged-in and purchased the ticket.
3. This can only be done manually, I am afraid. Please try sending us a customization job request by creating a new ticket in here and selecting Customization Request as the category.
see video below
Thanks so much for sharing that video. There were some helpful options in there I’ll definitely end up using!
Unfortunately, I can’t use the changes you recommended for settings because they all involve displaying info for logged in users only. I have “When to show the above virtual event information on event card: After user has purchased a ticket” enabled for anyone that has registered but my client wants to allow guest purchases. I very much wish they would have stuck with requiring registration to purchases classes!
Hey Ryan, the reason we make it so registered guests can see virtual events is if a guest is not registered in your site, they can not login to see their virtual access and we have no way of verifying they purchased the ticket. In woocommerce you can still allow guest purchase, but ask them to create an account during checkout.
I am hoping to incorporate zoom link customizability for repeat events using repeat customizer addon https://www.myeventon.com/addons/repeat-customizer/ in the next update round 🙂
Actually that was dave’s idea kind of 🙂 but it would look somehting like this.
And then for each repeat you would be able to go in and edit the url and pass. And that info will be used on tickets automatically corresponding to the correct repeat instance of the event.
So we are still testing this and it does need eventON 3.1.1 so that is also being tested.
Thank you again for your help on this. I know this is an older ticket now but I was revisiting it for info. In the meantime, I was able to convince my client to allow only registered members to purchase tickets for her virtual events.
After re-watching your video I was hoping you could clarify something. You mentioned at 2:38 that an upcoming version of EventON would allow for the embedding of streaming events into the events themselves so that only those logged in and who have purchased tickets can access it.
So the latest version does this now? If that’s the case, you’re saying a customer could log in, find the event and it would allow them to stream the event after clicking the event card’s details? This would save my client having to email out a new password for each event, correct? And they wouldn’t need to use the check-in button for each user to keep track since only customers would be able to access the room since sharing of the URL and password wouldn’t work?
Right now I have added a URL to the Zoom Meeting URL to join field but in order to use the feature above I’d need to have them click Create Zoom Meeting to fill out the details and embed the room into the event, correct?
Hey,
I asked David to look into the details here and maybe help you – with a video – again 🙂
Thank you!
alrighty heres a long video – sorry I go off topic Moohoohahahaha but come back again
showing how to embed an event into the eventon event
is there a reason you are using zoom specifically?
Also zoom can be embded however the quality is simply atrocious – its really bad and we did play with the idea but we will wait for the browser zoom to get better before investing the time because right now browser zoom sux (for lack of a better way)
jitsi is a better browser experience and requires no downloads no apps no accounts
Thanks very much for the demo and for the tips and recommendations. I wasn’t aware of Jit.si so it’s nice to have that as an option. For this client, however, it’s highly unlikely I’ll be able to get her to switch.
She does online fitness classes for seniors and has been offering them on Zoom for a while now. She seems comfortable with that platform and the features it offers (recording, waiting room, user account required to view, etc.). Her web skills, along with many of her clients, aren’t that in-depth (especially learning how to manage events in WordPress, EventON and WooCommerce) so keeping access as easy as possible is key.
That’s why the embed seems to be super simple since she won’t need to email clients beforehand with a new password prior to every event. And she wouldn’t need to worry about someone accessing it who shouldn’t since account/purchase is required to even view it. That means she can skip monitoring the users and doing check-ins too. Am I correct with all of that? The embedded Zoom can’t be accessed outside the site without purchase and login?
I’ll do a test to see how Zoom works when embedding into the events themselves. Now that I’ve convinced her that having an account to buy classes is required it should make things a lot easier. I may be able to convince her to try the Jit.si option—who knows!
I saw the preview of the event embed on your homepage but couldn’t seem to find anything showing it in action. Maybe I didn’t look hard enough?
that demo on the home page is jitsi you can try it with no download or anything from their home page https://meet.jit.si/ just type in a unique name and BOOM you are off. (and you then click settings then security to add the waiting room) thats essentially whats being embded on your site without the share or invite option
Zoom embed – is not very good quality, worse than jitsi tbh at the moment but zoom are proactive so perhaps one day it will run better Its OK if you are just showing yourself- but there is a lag a delay so you say something and then wait 5 seconds , or you move a hand and 5 second later you see it move on screen which is probably not great if you are doing fitness things
once zoom has a better browser version we will look at integration
with login – before viewing you want to streamline that as much as possible – (thats why I am working on the pop up) but ideally I’d like it to be similar to when you log into wp-admin – today and then tomorrow- I don’t have to physically log in- it remembers me- that would make it very easy to log in to view things you have bought tickets for
I was also looking at a simple login- so they only log in with their email address – but that can cause issues in security (but all the customer needs to remember is their email address)
in anycase play with jitsi- but if the client likes zoom then zoom is pretty good quality and their waiting room and lock off the join is great
Just make sure she tells her clinets how to whitelist her email address so it doens’t end up in spam folders (so they don’t miss out on the links etc) and if there was a way to have people log in once and remember them so they don’t have to log in again that would be fantastic for returning customers- nothing worse than trying to remember your password before a virtual event
I have often thought of a combined Jitsi with zoom-
so you have jitsi on the landing page as people go to the site where the host can walk them through how to join the zoom meeting- and at the end when the host goes away- the attendees can stay on the event page and chat with each other- that has not been implemented as yet- but possibly would be good for people to talk
we are brainstorming ideas so you can create break out rooms with jitsi (because its so easy to set up a meeting) so after a virtual event- attendees can break out into their own chat rooms but the how to on that has not been started as yet
Thanks for the tips and the info about quality and options. If I had my way it would be Jitsi for sure so I’m going to try to convince her to try it.
However, at this late stage in her site’s development, a new wrinkle in its delivery is not something either of us wants. With only 3 repeating events, it’s not a huge task to update their info. I’ll likely need her to change the password before each event and have clients instructed to log in and locate the event so they have quick access to it and the password. This would avoid emailing everyone.
I appreciate all of your help and feedback on this. It’s been a huge learning experience and I’m looking forward to what’s in the works for the next version of EventON!
Ashan mentioned earlier in the thread:
“I am hoping to incorporate zoom link customizability for repeat events using repeat customizer addon https://www.myeventon.com/addons/repeat-customizer/ in the next update round”
and
“…you would be able to go in and edit the url and pass. And that info will be used on tickets automatically corresponding to the correct repeat instance of the event.”
Any idea if this is on the horizon? I’m at a loss to find a way to use Zoom meetings in a repeating event that isn’t super cumbersome for my client. As it stands, she’ll have to email everyone who purchased a ticket beforehand with a new password.
I’m also running into a number of other problems with the Create Zoom Meeting function. I may submit a ticket for it after I get my head around what’s happening.
Sorry no eta at the moment there have been a few bugs since 3.1 and that has kept him on his toes fixing those
Generally speaking if you have the link on the event- you can simply change password by editing the event (and editing in zoom)
customers visit the event- log in and there on the event would be the link and password
its good practice to send emails to people before the virtual event anyway which she can use the built in emailer- its not like she has to open outlook express and manually add all the email addresses to send a bulk email- it can be done in 20 seconds using the built in emailer
she should also be sending an email out afterwards thanking them for turning up- how to add reviews and also top up sales
She is missing out on more sales if she isn’t emailing them to be honest
but yeah create a new ticket so we have an easier time with the topic not being confused with this one
Thanks for those tips. I’ll let her know about those opportunities to stay in contact with her customers.
I’m avoiding using the “Create Zoom Meeting” function because I’ve run into some bugs, I think, and it’s definitely not fool-proof for this client of mine. I’m using the “Zoom Meeting URL to join” field instead.
The issue I found then with changing the password in the event’s “Zoom Password” field is that it’s included in the customer’s email and the WooCommerce order details too.
That’s fine for the WC Orders endpoint because the password will automatically update in the order details. But someone who purchases multiple events in advance may be tempted to copy down the URL/password for each for easier access. Changing the password in the event would then affect all future events and the customer may not be aware of it.
Same situation for people who may rely on the ticket order emails. In this case, the details are not updated when the password changes. Customers would end up with incorrect info if they don’t refer back to the site. And with email being unreliable we worry about details being lost to spam folders (I have installed Post SMTP though).
I’m not sure what happens to updated passwords for events added to Apple or Google Calendar.
I could keep the field blank and have her email customers with the new password prior to each class, like you mentioned. But the workaround I found is this:
It’s a pretty simple method but likely not the intended use.
In any case, I want to thank you and the rest of the support team for being so helpful. I’m looking forward to the customizable repeatable events and whatever else might be coming down the pipe!
if you are doing that you can also change the language
see video (if you have not already done it)
probably the best way to do it until the repeat customizer gets updated
I had not already done that but I will now. Great idea! Thanks for that!
Most welcome!
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That’s all. Thanks again for all of your help!
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